This is Tom Hanks latest movie. It is about what is to become the largest naval battle in the Atlantic. He is the captain of a destroyer named Greyhound, tasked with protecting allied shipping from the unfathomable losses mounting up against German U-boats. This is the Captain’s first mission. Unbelievable!
During the Battle of the Atlantic, over 3500 ships carrying millions of tons of cargo were sunk.
72,000 souls were lost forever.
I was meaning to compare the possible butcher’s bill of the two eras against the crew complement of today’s destroyers, aircraft carriers and freighters.
This thread is inspired by this very good movie, and it is about certain job descriptions, positions and physical locations of an aircraft carrier that carry over into the HV vs those that no longer exist. For instance, there is still a combat information center (CIC) in the HV. I am assuming that aircraft carriers are the closest analogy to Superdreadnoughts in the HV, as Submarines are a dead ringer (pun intended) for Lenny Detweilers. The following concepts seem to have survived in the HV:
Helm
Flag Bridge
Flag Deck
CIC
Bosun
Coxswain???
Not sure about the following:
Conning Tower
Flight Deck
Pimary Flight Control (PriFly)
Anyone like to point out any others that exist, no longer exist or are completely new? Like… coxswain???
Wiki: The “Air Boss” in the Navy refers to two different, yet related, roles: 1) the Commander, Naval Air Forces (CNAF) (also known as the Air Boss) who is the senior leader of Naval Aviation, and 2) the air officer on an aircraft carrier, responsible for overseeing flight operations on board.
1. Commander, Naval Air Forces (CNAF):
Senior Naval Aviation Leader:
This role, often referred to as the “Air Boss,” is the highest-ranking officer in the Navy responsible for all aspects of Naval Aviation.
Responsibilities:
The CNAF oversees the manning, training, and equipping of all Navy aviation assets, ensuring a combat-ready force.
Current CNAF:
Vice Admiral Daniel “Undra” Cheever is the current Commander, Naval Air Forces and Commander, Naval Air Forces, Pacific Fleet.
2. Air Officer (on an aircraft carrier):
Flight Deck Control:
The air officer, often a commander, is responsible for all aspects of flight operations on the carrier, including the hangar deck, flight deck, and airborne aircraft within a 5-nautical mile radius.
Primary Flight Control (PriFly):
The air officer works from PriFly, also known as the tower, where they have a clear view of all aircraft on board and in the immediate airspace.
Permissions and Coordination:
The air officer grants permission for aircraft to take off, land, or operate within the carrier’s control zone. They work with their assistant, the “miniboss,” and other personnel to manage aircraft traffic.
Role in Air Traffic Control:
The air officer acts as a central point of contact for air traffic control, managing communication with aircraft, providing clearances, and guiding aircraft into and out of the carrier’s airspace.
Notes:
I did not know subs launched decoys simulating the sound of impellers.
In the 2020 war film Greyhound, the sound of “over-revving screws” is used to identify and track German U-boats during the Battle of the Atlantic. The movie portrays the use of sonar and hydrophones to detect the presence of U-boats, and the distinctive sound of their propellers, particularly when they are accelerating or “over-revving”, is a key indicator of their presence.
The sound of over-revving screws helps the US Navy destroyers, including the fictional “Greyhound,” locate and potentially engage the U-boats. In the film, the hydrophone operators listen for these sounds to determine the U-boat’s position, speed, and direction.
The scene where the crew of the Greyhound detects the over-revving screws is a tense moment in the film, highlighting the dangerous and constant threat posed by the German submarines during the Battle of the Atlantic.
Destroyers have to maneuver so sonar will be on the right bearing to locate or to relocate a sub.
Will the GA have to do the same? Certainly if they are to get a glimpse of the vulnerable aspect of their stealth. If there is a vulnerable aspect of their stealth. I suggested the same thing in several threads floating about. In response to the many theories that an LD's stealth will be easily burned through by a certain proximity to GR’s sensors. I maintain that sensors ( for the most part) will need to be correctly aimed at the target.
I also suggested quite some time ago that the LDs might be able to emulate the tactic by launching decoys that would simulate a spider drive.
Watching the movie, I was reminded of the Navy’s practice to bury the dead at sea. The GA has a habit of recovering pods of allies and enemies alike. It’s the law of the galaxy. But whatever law that compels a navy to pick up enemy pods certainly was not signed by the Malign. And the Malign certainly are aware of the rest of the galaxy’s responsibility to pick up enemy pods. It might not be prudent to pick up MAN pods; they might be bombs and/or other Trojan horses.
The GA certainly won’t pick up pods after news travels about the disgusting tactic, but surely a lot of damage will be done first.
