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Re: Yawata strike
Post by stewart   » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:02 pm

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gabmw wrote:which book is the description of the strike in? :?:



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Re: Yawata strike
Post by StealthSeeker   » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:45 pm

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CLA wrote:Can you imagine how the 'cats will react when they find out who was responsible?

TreeCat volunteers forming a special forces unit and being dropped onto the enemy homeworld....

MY GOD, the carnage that would ensue would be legendary! :lol:



Actually, with a little training, I think tree cats would make an extremely effective part of a stealth infiltration force used to capture hi value targets. Nobody could sneak into a place like tree cats could.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by kzt   » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:12 am

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StealthSeeker wrote:Actually, with a little training, I think tree cats would make an extremely effective part of a stealth infiltration force used to capture hi value targets. Nobody could sneak into a place like tree cats could.

Yeah, their ability to defeat body capacitance sensors, IR imagers and microwave radars is well known.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:11 am

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kzt wrote:
StealthSeeker wrote:Actually, with a little training, I think tree cats would make an extremely effective part of a stealth infiltration force used to capture hi value targets. Nobody could sneak into a place like tree cats could.

Yeah, their ability to defeat body capacitance sensors, IR imagers and microwave radars is well known.

True enough, but because of their low body mass, those alarms are going to look like small animals, not humans, are they might well be under the threshhold settings for said sensors - at least until the other side figures out what is happening.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by Vince   » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:44 pm

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StealthSeeker wrote:Actually, with a little training, I think tree cats would make an extremely effective part of a stealth infiltration force used to capture hi value targets. Nobody could sneak into a place like tree cats could.
kzt wrote:Yeah, their ability to defeat body capacitance sensors, IR imagers and microwave radars is well known.
fallsfromtrees wrote:True enough, but because of their low body mass, those alarms are going to look like small animals, not humans, are they might well be under the threshhold settings for said sensors - at least until the other side figures out what is happening.

And although they won't be able to 'see' passive IR image systems, don't forget, they can see infrared light beams.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by stewart   » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:47 am

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Vince wrote:"StealthSeeker"]Actually, with a little training, I think tree cats would make an extremely effective part of a stealth infiltration force used to capture hi value targets. Nobody could sneak into a place like tree cats could.
kzt wrote:Yeah, their ability to defeat body capacitance sensors, IR imagers and microwave radars is well known.


"fallsfromtrees"]True enough, but because of their low body mass, those alarms are going to look like small animals, not humans, are they might well be under the threshhold settings for said sensors - at least until the other side figures out what is happening.[/quote]

And although they won't be able to 'see' passive IR image systems, don't forget, they can see infrared light beams.[/quote]


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Re: Yawata strike
Post by dreamrider   » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:19 am

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CLA wrote:Can you imagine how the 'cats will react when they find out who was responsible?

TreeCat volunteers forming a special forces unit and being dropped onto the enemy homeworld....

MY GOD, the carnage that would ensue would be legendary! :lol:


This has been said many times by various posters over the years.

Personally, I don't think that this is the way that the 'cats will collectively react at all. Recall that these are creatures who will know, with certainty, when in the presence of an enemy populace, who is feeling guilt, malice, innocence, confusion, etc.

Their motivation will be to eliminate the threat. But they are not motivated to slaughter all hexapumas, peak bears, etc, because some of them are threats.

Mindless, enraged vengeance is not part of their make-up. Collectively thoughtful vengeance, if a human being can possibly envision such a thing, is more like it.

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Re: Yawata strike
Post by Bill Woods   » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:55 am

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CLA wrote:Can you imagine how the 'cats will react when they find out who was responsible?

TreeCat volunteers forming a special forces unit and being dropped onto the enemy homeworld....

MY GOD, the carnage that would ensue would be legendary! :lol:

They found out at the same time everyone else in the Manticore system did. We saw their reaction in Rising Thunder: they're taking an active role in the war. Thus far mostly as bodyguards, but also as lie detectors.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by Bill Woods   » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:10 pm

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SharkHunter wrote:Problem is, Henke already captured that home world. (Mesa), but yeah, the treecats revenge would not be pretty. Problem was it would also result in a lot more dead 'cats than if the RMN Marines went in at the same time.
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Which book was THAT in? There are so many books that tie into the main series that I've literally gotten lost....
Jonathan_S wrote:It's actually a bit of an inference from Shadow of Freedom and Cauldron of Ghosts.

From the end of SoF we know Mike decided to take a not insignificant part of her 10th fleet directly to Mesa, without waiting for orders.

Then at the end of CoG an unidentified force shows up in the Mesan system - it shows fewer ships that it appears Mike was taking; but that doesn't rule out 10th fleet. (Some could be detached, or in stealth, or waiting in hyper to pounce on any attempted escapes). We know the arrival basically caused the Mesan government to surrender, but we're never actually told/shown which fleet.

It's pretty likely it's Mike and 10th fleet, but it could be the Andermandi, or less likely even some surprise 3rd player.
I don't see how the Andermani could beat Henke. She left from Talbott Quad as soon as she knew the outcome of 2nd Manticore, with only a delay of about three weeks at Meyer System. Unless the Andies took the wormhole to Lynx and cut off the dogleg, how could they possibly get to Mesa first?
And, at the end of Cauldron, how would Honor not know about their ETA? And yet she only tells Zilwicki about Henke.
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Re: Yawata strike
Post by George J. Smith   » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:27 pm

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Bill Woods wrote:
I don't see how the Andermani could beat Henke. She left from Talbott Quad as soon as she knew the outcome of 2nd Manticore, with only a delay of about three weeks at Meyer System. Unless the Andies took the wormhole to Lynx and cut off the dogleg, how could they possibly get to Mesa first?
And, at the end of Cauldron, how would Honor not know about their ETA? And yet she only tells Zilwicki about Henke.


Unless they went from Trevor's Star via the MWJ to Beowulf then hopped across to Visigoth and took the wormhole to Mesa. :o
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