Infrastructure Raid Targets.

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stewart wrote:
There is a good argument that Pearl Harbor brutally cleared the way for the CV to be the primary capital ship of WWII instead of the BB. Battles of Coral Sea and Midway emphasized the point.

One option is to let the SLN tie up resources trying to modernize their reserve fleet.

If new construction is targeted (or new construction yards) it would potentially force the SLN to rely on the slow and obsolete.

-- Stewart

Been thinking about the MAlign angle, not at all worried about SLN technolog levels; they seem to figure the wolves will take down the bison in the meantime, and that they've already got the tools they need against any conventionally armed force outside of the GA. So they need to conserve their forces to shoot the wolves instead. Repaired or upgraded shipyards strengthen both wolves and bison.

I think that likely makes shipyards a primary target for all three corners of the triangle, whether there are a bunch of SD's moored or mothballed nearby or not. Be interesting to see where the SLN would try to get missiles for those empty ships if the shipyards which would have normally onloaded the missiles has been on the end of a big ka-boom in the meantime.

Dca wrote:

Hutch wrote:[snip]
And what is obsolete for any modern naval force would cut a major swath through Verge and Protectorate systems that are not close to the action (say, on the other side of the SL from the GA and with no wormholes within 100LY). So if you're and enterprising conqueror and have enough people to man a couple of ancient SD's you've hijacked (bought under the table), you may think you can set up a nice little empire that is so far away from the GA that they won't bother you.
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So at minimum I would secure the mothballed wallers and probably let the LACs use their Alpha Nodes for target practice.

Could the GA secure the reserve with BC(P)s or SagCs in stealth picketing them for reactivation, prepared to pick off any that start to move? That would deprive the SL of the propaganda benefits of destroying it outright while ensuring nobody makes off with a capability to make mischief.

It would tie up lots of ships essentially doing nothing. Not what I would call an effective use of force.

I doubt that the SLN or anybody else is going to put ships into the reserve fleet with missles and various other armed projectile weaponry stored aboard. They are also probably are not going to
) have the enviormental plants stocked with things like water, anything generating oxigen by photosysthis etc
) have the fusion plants live and running
) have the fuel bunkers full -perhaps some minimal level for movement by thrusters in combination with a tug for safety but that would also mean that they would have to either provide power direct to the thruster systems (and their controls) or fire up one of the energy sources to use thrusters
) gave small arms, Marine equipment, most of the ship's boats (and fuel)
) have food supplies including long-term "emergency" rations

Brigade XO wrote:I doubt that the SLN or anybody else is going to put ships into the reserve fleet with missles and various other armed projectile weaponry stored aboard.

That, BTW, is why the suggestion that you can make use of the mothballed RMN ships falls down. Because someone blewed up the spare parts and ammo depots.

wastedfly wrote:In the history of mankind, no major power has ever had their major naval ships built in a foreign country.

Only "country" that could possibly buck this statement is Florence and no one would actually call them a major naval power. Trading power, yes, naval? No.

Did not Imperial Germany have a number of warships under construction in British shipyards in 1914?

kzt wrote:

Brigade XO wrote:I doubt that the SLN or anybody else is going to put ships into the reserve fleet with missles and various other armed projectile weaponry stored aboard.

That, BTW, is why the suggestion that you can make use of the mothballed RMN ships falls down. Because someone blewed up the spare parts and ammo depots.

The spare parts and ammo depots are not collocated with the manufacturing facilities.

drothgery wrote:The spare parts and ammo depots are not collocated with the manufacturing facilities.

No, they are collocated with the RMN's major naval bases and shipyards. Which just also happen to be connected to the same stations as the manufacturing facilities, and got all blowed up real good.

kzt wrote:

drothgery wrote:The spare parts and ammo depots are not collocated with the manufacturing facilities.

No, they are collocated with the RMN's major naval bases and shipyards. Which just also happen to be connected to the same stations as the manufacturing facilities, and got all blowed up real good.

And, y'know, the dozens of other systems the RMN maintains bases in.

drothgery wrote:

kzt wrote:No, they are collocated with the RMN's major naval bases and shipyards. Which just also happen to be connected to the same stations as the manufacturing facilities, and got all blowed up real good.

And, y'know, the dozens of other systems the RMN maintains bases in.

Hancock, Sidemore, Basilisk, and Tervor's Star all come to mind. Alizon still has the 2nd BC level production facilities built there. (Zanzibar got theirs punched out twice.)

Theemile wrote:Hancock, Sidemore, Basilisk, and Tervor's Star all come to mind. Alizon still has the 2nd BC level production facilities built there. (Zanzibar got theirs punched out twice.)

Sure. But those are not the major fleet sites and they are connected to a logistics pipeline that isn't there. I'm sure Diego Garcia can replace an engine on a F18, but I doubt they have the parts on hand to perform the engine overhauls for 6 F18 squadrons.