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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by Amaroq   » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:09 pm

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I enjoyed the novels as well even though I'm not (unfortunately) a young adult anymore. I very much like the look of "sleepy" Manticore before the Junction was discovered. It's interesting to make comparisons to the Manticore that we're used to. Some of the references to how few ships come Manticore's way (like a few a month is heavy) make me chuckle when you consider that in the current SKM a few thousand ships a day is about average.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by saber964   » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:40 pm

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Amaroq wrote:I enjoyed the novels as well even though I'm not (unfortunately) a young adult anymore. I very much like the look of "sleepy" Manticore before the Junction was discovered. It's interesting to make comparisons to the Manticore that we're used to. Some of the references to how few ships come Manticore's way (like a few a month is heavy) make me chuckle when you consider that in the current SKM a few thousand ships a day is about average.



Try thinking about some of the cities in extreme southern South America like Punta Arenas Chili it sits on the Straits of Magellan and prior to the building of the Panama canal it served as a coaling station and saw 150 -200 ships a month now its lucky if it sees 20-30 in an entire year.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by n7axw   » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:40 pm

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It would have helped if the books hadn't been labeled young adult. They were completely acceptable as a fairly quick, satisfying read for any age.

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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by SWM   » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:20 pm

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n7axw wrote:It would have helped if the books hadn't been labeled young adult. They were completely acceptable as a fairly quick, satisfying read for any age.

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That's true of most Young Adult books. I strongly encourage you to check out other Young Adult books. It is a lively and thriving category. Young Adult does not mean kid stuff.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by Technobuilder   » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:51 pm

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Sad to learn that the series didn't sell well, but I too thought it an odd ball move to label the series as Young Adult.

I rather enjoyed the books myself and having just finished the 3rd installment "Treecat Wars" I was looking forward to more of those characters.

Having read "Manticore Ascendant" and realizing that they're rather close chronologically, I've wondered if we might not see Stephanie Harrington again sooner rather than later if a bit older...
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by SWM   » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:03 pm

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I believe that the series was deliberately aimed at Young Adult from its conception. I think David wanted to attract some younger people to the series. Remember also that David's own children were just entering that age bracket...
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by senna   » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:34 pm

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The Hunger Games as a whole was a good series. Unfortunatly the last book was lacking... The whole book had the same feeling as the last 20-30 minutes of the LOTR The Return of the King! Something that could have ben dealt with quickly was dragged out for longer than was necessary.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by Tenshinai   » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:27 pm

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n7axw wrote:It would have helped if the books hadn't been labeled young adult. They were completely acceptable as a fairly quick, satisfying read for any age.

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Exactly! Big mistake. It´s the same as with Terry Pratchett´s Tiffany Aching series, i consider it his best, yet it´s seriously underrated because lots of people dismiss it as "just YA". :(

And really, how could they think it would sell well if they try to suddenly jump for a completely new audience who has zero knowledge of the universe already?

Sure the books are easy to jump into for just about anyone, but you need a reason to TRY first.

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That's true of most Young Adult books. I strongly encourage you to check out other Young Adult books. It is a lively and thriving category. Young Adult does not mean kid stuff.


If anyone ever finds the series "Vren" by Lotta Olivecrona translated, check it out, it´s a pretty good sci-fi/fantasy mixup.
Also underrated because of getting labeled with the "YA" brand.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by wetnavy   » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:17 am

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Don[/quote]
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... Young Adult does not mean kid stuff.[/quote]

Very true. Robin McKinley comes to mind. Here novels may have young protagonists but themes aren't necessarily just for kids. Just finished re-reading The Hero and the Crown and The Blue Sword. Both fantasy and young heroines meeting their destinies. Another is Deerskin which I wouldn't classify as YA. It deals with rape, incest, child neglect amongst other things.
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Re: Next Stephanie Harrington Novel
Post by kenl511   » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:30 am

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The Flowers in the Attic series was considered YA. Incest, emotional abuse, neglect and flat out lies are all through the series. I was aghast at finding they were considered YA and the children's library collection had them.

All that is required for a book to considered YA is young protagonist with adult world considered from the outside according to a children's librarian friend of mine. Marketing is nice, but if a children's librarian finds a book meets the above standard it goes into the YA collection....
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