Honorverse ramblings and musings

MaxxQ wrote:

cthia wrote:
Oh my gosh. I was so concerned about RFC killing off Honor that I plum overlooked Nimitz.

Someone please tell me that RFC has stated somewhere that he won't kill off Nimitz.

If Nimitz was to die, how long before Honor is adopted? Can a treecat bond be resisted? Honor's track record with replacements make her sad.

Will an SD be named after Nimitz? USS Nimitz err RMS Nimitz, GSN Nimitz, RHN Nimitz. How long before two ships from different navies with the same basic registry? Certainly the three navies has to cooperate in ship naming.

Nimitz' funeral will be huge, and just like Honor's, held on two planets.

The first time I read something from RFC about his reasoning for *not* killing Honor (a few years ago), one of the reasons given was that his wife Sharon realized that would mean killing Nimitz, and I believe she forbade him from doing that.

Yippee ki yay! Blowing kisses to Sharon!
Oops will that put me back on RFC's excrement list? Wait, I never got off it. Okay then, I'm safe!

Thanks Maxx.

OK, a musing from me.

We know from textev that Fearless (the CA version) was a Star-Knight class, which are being superceded by the Saganami-A/B/C's.

We also know that it is on the List of Honor, so that there will always be an HMS Fearless in the RMN.

And we know that while the names sometimes stay in-class (if a BC earned the list, then a new BC will inherit it), the name Fearless went from CL to CA, so it can move between classes.

Knowing the above, do you think we'll one day see Honor on the Flag Deck of the Roger Winton Class SD(P) HMS Fearless?

Because I really think we ought to.

(And for those who want to argue that there is no Roger Winton Class SD(P), I merely reply "yet".

cthia wrote:Oh my gosh. I was so concerned about RFC killing off Honor that I plum overlooked Nimitz.

Someone please tell me that RFC has stated somewhere that he won't kill off Nimitz.

If Nimitz was to die, how long before Honor is adopted? Can a treecat bond be resisted? Honor's track record with replacements make her sad.

Will an SD be named after Nimitz? USS Nimitz err RMS Nimitz, GSN Nimitz, RHN Nimitz. How long before two ships from different navies with the same basic registry? Certainly the three navies has to cooperate in ship naming.

Nimitz' funeral will be huge, and just like Honor's, held on two planets.

I can't find the link, but at one point I and another poster speculated about the possibility of the Manticoran and Havenite navies naming their ships after each other's casualties, as a show of respect and unity (and a plot to make me cry). So we'd have the HMS Javier Giscard, for instance, or the RHNS Theodosia Kuzak.

And I would still commit (metaphorical) murder to see this happen.

roseandheather wrote:

cthia wrote:Oh my gosh. I was so concerned about RFC killing off Honor that I plum overlooked Nimitz.

Someone please tell me that RFC has stated somewhere that he won't kill off Nimitz.

If Nimitz was to die, how long before Honor is adopted? Can a treecat bond be resisted? Honor's track record with replacements make her sad.

Will an SD be named after Nimitz? USS Nimitz err RMS Nimitz, GSN Nimitz, RHN Nimitz. How long before two ships from different navies with the same basic registry? Certainly the three navies has to cooperate in ship naming.

Nimitz' funeral will be huge, and just like Honor's, held on two planets.

I can't find the link, but at one point I and another poster speculated about the possibility of the Manticoran and Havenite navies naming their ships after each other's casualties, as a show of respect and unity (and a plot to make me cry). So we'd have the HMS Javier Giscard, for instance, or the RHNS Theodosia Kuzak.

And I would still commit (metaphorical) murder to see this happen.

That would be an ultimate gesture of respect and sorrow for the lives taken by each side. RMN Javier Giscard would bring tears to Eloise's eyes. She should break the christening bottle of champagne on her bulkheads, amidst very teary eyes.

Hutch wrote:
OK, a musing from me.

We know from textev that Fearless (the CA version) was a Star-Knight class, which are being superceded by the Saganami-A/B/C's.

We also know that it is on the List of Honor, so that there will always be an HMS Fearless in the RMN.

And we know that while the names sometimes stay in-class (if a BC earned the list, then a new BC will inherit it), the name Fearless went from CL to CA, so it can move between classes.

Knowing the above, do you think we'll one day see Honor on the Flag Deck of the Roger Winton Class SD(P) HMS Fearless?

Because I really think we ought to.

(And for those who want to argue that there is no Roger Winton Class SD(P), I merely reply "yet".

Where were you when I was On Basilisk Station wishing Fearless was a Superdreadnaught?

Anyways, what a wonderful idea. Perhaps we can impress upon the teacher's pet to impress upon his highness to make it happen. Are you game Miss Scottish Thistle?

Getting back to the topic of Andrea and Santino. As far as we know, the only negative Office Fitness Report ever written on Elvis Santino was the one written by Capt. Bassfinch. Within weeks, months at the outside, the Captain was relieved from command and placed on half pay for recklessly hazarding his command. For all we know, every other evaluation of Santino might be a glowing report of his sterling abilities (written, of course, by his political relatives). One bad report by an officer whose judgment can be shown to be suspect would not adversely affect his chances for promotion, if all of the following reports were good.

KNick wrote:Getting back to the topic of Andrea and Santino. As far as we know, the only negative Office Fitness Report ever written on Elvis Santino was the one written by Capt. Bassfinch. Within weeks, months at the outside, the Captain was relieved from command and placed on half pay for recklessly hazarding his command. For all we know, every other evaluation of Santino might be a glowing report of his sterling abilities (written, of course, by his political relatives). One bad report by an officer whose judgment can be shown to be suspect would not adversely affect his chances for promotion, if all of the following reports were good.

Point taken KNick. Didn't consider it in that light. However, I get the impression that Santino was such an incompetent, that many more competent officers would have served under and with him to know the truth ... as Honor herself. I also get the impression that he was a slacker. Incompetent slacker isn't a characteristic that can remain hidden in the RMN. IMHO.

I think Jaruwalski was a hero, and should have been lauded for it, if only. After all, she resisted blindly following orders, as were Haven's officers under Saint-Just and Rob Pierre.

cthia wrote:

KNick wrote:Getting back to the topic of Andrea and Santino. As far as we know, the only negative Office Fitness Report ever written on Elvis Santino was the one written by Capt. Bassfinch. Within weeks, months at the outside, the Captain was relieved from command and placed on half pay for recklessly hazarding his command. For all we know, every other evaluation of Santino might be a glowing report of his sterling abilities (written, of course, by his political relatives). One bad report by an officer whose judgment can be shown to be suspect would not adversely affect his chances for promotion, if all of the following reports were good.

Point taken KNick. Didn't consider it in that light. However, I get the impression that Santino was such an incompetent, that many more competent officers would have served under and with him to know the truth ... as Honor herself. I also get the impression that he was a slacker. Incompetent slacker isn't a characteristic that can remain hidden in the RMN. IMHO.

I think Jaruwalski was a hero, and should have been lauded for it, if only. After all, she resisted blindly following orders, as were Haven's officers under Saint-Just and Rob Pierre.

Perhaps the review board knew Santino was an incompetent slacker, perhaps they didn't. But that doesn't necessarily change the results of the review when they don't have any evidence except the documentation Santino himself provided, and no evidence from the defense at all. Even if Santino is an incompetent slacker, there is only one possible judgement when his is the only evidence.

On Basilisk Station

She'd felt their influence more than once in her career, and his malicious delight in dropping full responsibility for the entire Basilisk System on her shoulders—leaving her with a single, over-age light cruiser to do a job which should have been the task of an entire flotilla—burned on her tongue like poison.

No doubt they would see Warlock's departure as one more sign that they'd been demoted to the least important duty the Fleet could find and abandoned, and they would soon realize just how heavy a burden Young had dropped on them. Her single ship would be required to police the entire system and all of the traffic passing through the Basilisk terminus, and there was no way they could do it.

In the Honorverse, what is the various differences in the terms: 'Fleet,' 'Flotilla,' 'Task Force,' 'Task Group?' Singleton is obvious. Is there textev?

Fleet - Largest organizational formation of a navy. Typically subdivided into Task Forces.

Task Force - An organizational unit with a defined activity or task, and may be temporary/ad hoc for the duration of the activity. May be further subdivided into task groups.

Task Group - If Task Force activities are spread beyond meaningful centralized command and control, a task force can split apart into smaller task groups.

Flotilla - Organizational formation of small warships (in the Honorverse, light cruiser and smaller). Consists of multiple squadrons.