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As far as I know, there are no military personnel in the Western Theatre with access to Snarcs and all the wonderful stuff they can tell us about what the Temple Boys are up to.
Merlin's done this in the past but there's gonna be a lot happening in different places so it might be difficult for him, and Nimue of course, to spend the time away from their principals.
Sooo... since Aivah and her minions are about to be brought into the tent ( I know, I know about assumptions) what if some of her male members were recruited to be placed near major commanders and used to show up as crafty locals on the commanders' doorstep when critical information needed to be gotten to them. OWL can provide logistical and transportation support as needed, or possibly Nimue.

Your thoughts....

No matter how capable Nynian's minions might be, some of them would have to be brought in to the inner circle to have access to the snarcs to make it work.

I expect that to eventually happen, but as fluid as the current situation is, I don't expect it to be soon enough to impact the situation right now.

As for Nimue, she has her hands full in Corisande. Her job is to keep the kids alive along with identifying dissident elements soon enough to counter them. Corisande is much better than it was, but still needs monitoring. Hopefully trustworthy people in Corisande will be identified for the inner circle and Nimue will have some reinforcements.

Wonder if Nimue has her own skimmer?

Don

n7axw wrote:No matter how capable Nynian's minions might be, some of them would have to be brought in to the inner circle to have access to the snarcs to make it work.

I expect that to eventually happen, but as fluid as the current situation is, I don't expect it to be soon enough to impact the situation right now.

As for Nimue, she has her hands full in Corisande. Her job is to keep the kids alive along with identifying dissident elements soon enough to counter them. Corisande is much better than it was, but still needs monitoring. Hopefully trustworthy people in Corisande will be identified for the inner circle and Nimue will have some reinforcements.

Wonder if Nimue has her own skimmer?

Don

Hi,Don...
There was another skimmer parked in Nimue's cave, so she has it at her disposal as needed. A good thing,IMO- She doesn't need to bug her 'Big Brother' to borrow the ride...

n7axw wrote:No matter how capable Nynian's minions might be, some of them would have to be brought in to the inner circle to have access to the snarcs to make it work.

I expect that to eventually happen, but as fluid as the current situation is, I don't expect it to be soon enough to impact the situation right now.

As for Nimue, she has her hands full in Corisande. Her job is to keep the kids alive along with identifying dissident elements soon enough to counter them. Corisande is much better than it was, but still needs monitoring. Hopefully trustworthy people in Corisande will be identified for the inner circle and Nimue will have some reinforcements.

Wonder if Nimue has her own skimmer?

Don

The thing is all the members of the inner circle so far are either high ranking or otherwise 'safe' from being taken by the Inquisition. I'm not sure it would be a great idea to have #1 human members of the Inner Circle trotting around by themselves in combat zones disseminating info to the Generals. Suppose one of them gets taken and put to the Question?

While acknowledging the great importance of Daivyn and Iris to the process of integrating Corisande into the Empire, at least for the next 2 or 3 years, I can't help but feel guarding them is a bit of a backwater assignment for someone of Nimue's skills. After all, we have already had two major assination attempt plots in Corisande, how many more can RFC get away with siting there? Especially in just two more books?

Randomiser wrote:

n7axw wrote:No matter how capable Nynian's minions might be, some of them would have to be brought in to the inner circle to have access to the snarcs to make it work.

I expect that to eventually happen, but as fluid as the current situation is, I don't expect it to be soon enough to impact the situation right now.

As for Nimue, she has her hands full in Corisande. Her job is to keep the kids alive along with identifying dissident elements soon enough to counter them. Corisande is much better than it was, but still needs monitoring. Hopefully trustworthy people in Corisande will be identified for the inner circle and Nimue will have some reinforcements.

Wonder if Nimue has her own skimmer?

Don

The thing is all the members of the inner circle so far are either high ranking or otherwise 'safe' from being taken by the Inquisition. I'm not sure it would be a great idea to have #1 human members of the Inner Circle trotting around by themselves in combat zones disseminating info to the Generals. Suppose one of them gets taken and put to the Question?

While acknowledging the great importance of Daivyn and Iris to the process of integrating Corisande into the Empire, at least for the next 2 or 3 years, I can't help but feel guarding them is a bit of a backwater assignment for someone of Nimue's skills. After all, we have already had two major assination attempt plots in Corisande, how many more can RFC get away with siting there? Especially in just two more books?

Your first paragraph has a really, really good point. In fact, I agree with you completely... now that you have pointed out the issue.

With your second point, maybe. But give Nimue time to get the guard's skills up to snuff and perhaps she'll take off on adventure or two. Then, Nimue doesn't have Merlin's experience on Safehold so it's probably a good thing to give her time to develop a feel for the situation beyond what she had when she woke up. Finally, it is VERY important for the empire that Corisande remain stable.

So... maybe Nimue's skills are a bit under untilized right now. But it seems to me that it's for good reason.

Don

Wanna bet a girl seijinm will be useful to a madam, especially if she can alter her appearence? She can arrange for her to be invited or hired to go to a certain location, then once in and ready, do her seijin act. A super strong and super fast girl could do alot of good work.

Hi SYED,

Absolutely!

Think what girl fun Nynian and Nimue might have together!

Imagine all the things Nynian could teach Nimue, that she never knew before, never had time to learn regarding the eternal chase between men and women, etc.

Given how most inquisitors ignore women, think how effective Nimue could be as an assassin etc, then by changing her face, eyes, hair and body etc could elude pursuit, albeit needing a few minutes for the time to switch.

NTM if Nynian and Merlin do spend time together, will Nimue see it partly as vetting Nynian for her 'older brother?


L

SYED wrote:Wanna bet a girl seijinm will be useful to a madam, especially if she can alter her appearence? She can arrange for her to be invited or hired to go to a certain location, then once in and ready, do her seijin act. A super strong and super fast girl could do alot of good work.

Some clarifications...
We will have 2,3 if Hanth is operating on his own, operating in the Temple Boys home turf. There is the definite possibility that 1 or 2 of these armies will become involved with MHoG armies of two or three hundred thousand men who have been trained by experienced COGA officers and NCOs. The lead units of these armies will most likely be armed with St Khylman's breechloaders.

The only organic intelligence gathering resources for DE and EHM are their cavalry and Scout/sniper units. Their effectiveness is going to be severely limited by the large numbers of MHoG cavalry.
Soo, our guys are going to almost blind, a most dangerous condition.

There are going to be times when DE and EHM are going to NEED information their organic resources cannot get them. The previous source of this sort of information will find it harder and harder to disappear from the Emperor's side to get this information to the field commanders.

Telling Nynian the truth is going to expand the circle of those who know the truth considerably. I'm thinking the SSK members are not mushrooms and will have to be told the truth as well.

So, again, why not use use some of her trained and experienced clandestine personnel as the means to deliver this information. I'm not sure where the idea that these people would be wandering around the woods waiting to be snapped up came from but OWL/Nahrmann wouldn't do anything that risky. OWL can insert and extract any agent, much like he's been moving Merlin around all these years.

The key element in my thinking is that Nynian is going to have to tell her folks a lot. Maybe not the whole story but a considerable piece. Her people are too smart and knowledgeable to be kept totally in the dark. To do otherwise could create a lot of dangerous enemies.

EdThomas wrote:Some clarifications...
We will have 2,3 if Hanth is operating on his own, operating in the Temple Boys home turf. There is the definite possibility that 1 or 2 of these armies will become involved with MHoG armies of two or three hundred thousand men who have been trained by experienced COGA officers and NCOs. The lead units of these armies will most likely be armed with St Khylman's breechloaders.

I really don't see where the COGA comes up with all the officers and noncoms to train the Harchongese. Most of the COGA's surviving experienced officers are still with the Army of the Glacierheart or in the Sylvan Gap.

Then too, how much experience does the Army of God really have? It was basicly a new organization prior to its attack on Siddarmark. After they started out encountering units armed with modern rifles and artillery, their experience has been pretty grim. Conceeding that adversity can be a more effective teacher than success, it's obvious that the AOG still hasn't any idea how to beat COGA armies.

As for the St Klymans, by spring they will be facing M96 repeating rifles and breech loading cannon. Won't they have fun then...

Don

n7axw wrote:I really don't see where the COGA comes up with all the officers and noncoms to train the Harchongese. Most of the COGA's surviving experienced officers are still with the Army of the Glacierheart or in the Sylvan Gap.

Then too, how much experience does the Army of God really have? It was basicly a new organization prior to its attack on Siddarmark. After they started out encountering units armed with modern rifles and artillery, their experience has been pretty grim. Conceeding that adversity can be a more effective teacher than success, it's obvious that the AOG still hasn't any idea how to beat COGA armies.

As for the St Klymans, by spring they will be facing M96 repeating rifles and breech loading cannon. Won't they have fun then...

Don

Come Spring, the CoGA disaster will be so grave that the populace will ask..."If God disapproves of Charis so much, why hasn't He acted against them? Why has He sent seijin to help Charis?"

The more the G4 scream about demons, the more the argument swings back to why God hasn't countered Shan-wei's agents. The Writ promised angelic counters to demonic activities. If the CoGA continue to claim demonic interference, they will have to answer why the angelic counter hasn't appeared. The more often the question about the absence of angelic support for the CoGA arises, the more often the suspicion rises that God does NOT support the CoGA.

I believe that the defeat of the GHoG will be the inflection point for this. When they fall to demonic innovations inspired by Shan-wei, the question of where God is will raise all the issues above. Duchairn might argue that God does not approve of Clyntahn and retain authority within the CoGA. Then again, he might not.