Spoiler How much does Nynian tell the SSK? Spoiler

There is also a problem, that the Kohdy version of events during the War Agains the Fallen is at least partially contradict the Merlin's version:

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For that matter, after talking with him, Kohdy had come to question whether or not Langhorne himself had loosed the Rakurai on Armageddon Reef. The Fallen who’d taken up Shan-wei’s struggle after the destruction of Armageddon Reef had insisted it was Chihiro and Schueler who’d turned to evil, not Shan-wei, but Kohdy had always brushed those assertions aside.

So Merlin must be cautious, because he doesn't know who is really right and how would SSK react on this "contradictions".

n7axw wrote:
I like the principle. But in practice it has been difficult to fully implement. Sharleyean, Hector, Irys were all admitted before the Brethren had their say. In the case of the sisters, I agree that you cant admit them enmasse, I don't see how they can be exposed to the Brethren well enough so that they could offer meaningful input. And it could well be that there could be others whose trustworthiness and flexibility are such that they would deserve to be told, but being a half-planet away...

Don

Well I suppose viewing the SNARC take on potential inductees is different from meeting them in person, better in some ways and worse in others, but given that there will now be candidates from all over the EoC and possibly parts of the mainland, the Brethren either learn to put up with it or lose their veto. All the current members at someone's time of entry having a veto isn't going to work for too much longer as the circle expands either. The whole thing is fine while the circle is very small but it's just not a scalable protocol.

Dilandu wrote:There is also a problem, that the Kohdy version of events during the War Agains the Fallen is at least partially contradict the Merlin's version:

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For that matter, after talking with him, Kohdy had come to question whether or not Langhorne himself had loosed the Rakurai on Armageddon Reef. The Fallen who’d taken up Shan-wei’s struggle after the destruction of Armageddon Reef had insisted it was Chihiro and Schueler who’d turned to evil, not Shan-wei, but Kohdy had always brushed those assertions aside.

So Merlin must be cautious, because he doesn't know who is really right and how would SSK react on this "contradictions".

Caution would be in order, yes, but note the textev is that this is Kohdy's tentative idea and didn't necessarily come from his informant. Who knows how much the informant really knew either? And it might well have been easier for a Seijin fighting for the CoGA to conclude that he was wrong about which Archangels rebelled against God and Langhorne, rather than believing that Langhorne himself could be mistaken about something like that or loose the Rakurai out of evil motives.

Merlin on the other hand knows exactly what Langhorne and Bedard had already done by that point, and Commander Pei seems to me to have been in a much better position to know who was able and likely to have the OBS fabricated and used than someone Khody met late in the War. However RFC loves to surprise us so we will have to wait for the book for a definite answer.

Well, of course it is highly possible. But personally - it is more interesting to consider Langhorne as a megalomaniac AND tragic figure, theen simply as megalomaniac.

However RFC loves to surprise us so we will have to wait for the book for a definite answer.

No doubt in that!

Hi Randomiser,

Quite right.

The brotherhood of St Zherneau has the Abbey of Saint Evehlain with its inner circle members to help vet the SSK, and Sharleyan, Ohlyvya and Sahndrah ought to have been pushing for more women to be included, so the SSK seems almost made to order.

Gee, I wonder if the author knows that.

However, choosing who to tell in the SSK is Nynian's job; given she's far more personally familiar with the risks of the inquisition than anyone in the inner circle, I kinda trust her judgement.

I think Merlin will too.

L

Randomiser wrote:

n7axw wrote:
I like the principle. But in practice it has been difficult to fully implement. Sharleyean, Hector, Irys were all admitted before the Brethren had their say. In the case of the sisters, I agree that you cant admit them enmasse, I don't see how they can be exposed to the Brethren well enough so that they could offer meaningful input. And it could well be that there could be others whose trustworthiness and flexibility are such that they would deserve to be told, but being a half-planet away...

Don

Well I suppose viewing the SNARC take on potential inductees is different from meeting them in person, better in some ways and worse in others, but given that there will now be candidates from all over the EoC and possibly parts of the mainland, the Brethren either learn to put up with it or lose their veto. All the current members at someone's time of entry having a veto isn't going to work for too much longer as the circle expands either. The whole thing is fine while the circle is very small but it's just not a scalable protocol.