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Re: Torpedoes
Post by Dilandu   » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:38 am

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lyonheart wrote:Hi Dilandu,

Rocket torpedoes have been around for some time, they've just never worked that well, as the Kursk demonstrated not too long ago.

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Er. The "Shkval" worked well... inside the limitation short-range almost directly-heading weapon. ;)

And "Shkval" didn't have anything with the sinking of "Kursk". The "Kursk" were destroyed by detonation of 650mm peroxide 65-76 torpedo - pretty conventional long-range torpedo.
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Re: Torpedoes
Post by cralkhi   » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:07 am

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Thucydides wrote:Mythbusters once did a very entertaining show about an ancient Chinese rocket powered torpedo. One plunged into and under the water on firing, one flew through the air (essentially an unguided missile) and one (after a lot of tweaking) finally struck the target. To be fair, this was more of a kamikaze speedboat guided by wire(s) than what we would consider a torpedo.

So there is a (very) theoretical possibility of some sort of torpedo like device being deployed in this war, although they would probably get more milage out of a "Stalin Organ" type multiple rocket launcher to try and bombard approaching ships.


Interesting. I agree it wouldn't be much use, but Thirsk and co. might try it - that would probably be less worrisome to the CoGA (well, as innovations go, anyway - they still wouldn't like it) as it just uses gunpowder which was accepted before the current war.


Black powder rockets are not all that difficult to make, and don't really need high tech materials (wood or even waxed cardboard will do for low power ones). The effects on men and horses are pretty dramatic, and certainly any Imperial ships or troops caught by these things would be quite nastily surprised.


Yeah, black powder rockets can be pretty simple, they were made in China and Korea in medieval times.

Getting a range that would match a KHVII's guns though is harder. On various websites I see 3,000 yards or 2 miles mentioned for the Congreve rockets used in the War of 1812; I don't know how well the CoGA could do relative to that.
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Re: Torpedoes
Post by Joat42   » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:28 am

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Dilandu wrote:
lyonheart wrote:Hi Dilandu,

Rocket torpedoes have been around for some time, they've just never worked that well, as the Kursk demonstrated not too long ago.

L


Er. The "Shkval" worked well... inside the limitation short-range almost directly-heading weapon. ;)

And "Shkval" didn't have anything with the sinking of "Kursk". The "Kursk" were destroyed by detonation of 650mm peroxide 65-76 torpedo - pretty conventional long-range torpedo.


Just after the Kursk sunk, there was some speculation that they where testing "Shkval" torpedoes which in turn caused the explosion.

I've have run into this misconception earlier that the Shkval was responsible for the sinking since some media more or less presented it as a fact (and we all know how fair and factual media can be :roll:).

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