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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by kzt   » Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:47 pm

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Sidewall burners were not contact nukes. They had fairly short standoff ranges, on the order of a few hundred to single digit thousands of Km, but they were standoff weapons using shaped high yield fusion bombs.
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Theemile   » Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:06 pm

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kzt wrote:Sidewall burners were not contact nukes. They had fairly short standoff ranges, on the order of a few hundred to single digit thousands of Km, but they were standoff weapons using shaped high yield fusion bombs.


Yes, but they are the same weapon (Contact nuke warheads) used in different modes - but as you point out, they do not actually come in contact with the ship or sidewall in the "burn" setting.

It should be noted that most laserheads have all 3 settings in the same warhead (but not all - some of the original ones like the Mk 50 DD/CL missile were too small), which must be selected prior to launch.
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Fox2!   » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:29 pm

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Let's see ... I know, combine TWTSNBM with a Crippler!

Now, where's Charles' contact info? I know I have it around here someplace....
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by biochem   » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:01 pm

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You know an awful lot of spin off technology has civilian applications. The TWTSNBN in and of itself wouldn't have any civilian applications but is there anything in the underlying technology behind it that could be repurposed?
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by kzt   » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:21 pm

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biochem wrote:You know an awful lot of spin off technology has civilian applications. The TWTSNBN in and of itself wouldn't have any civilian applications but is there anything in the underlying technology behind it that could be repurposed?

You mean like building multi-drive missiles? Yeah, you can do that.
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Roguevictory   » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:37 pm

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munroburton wrote:So grav lance technology was developed in the 1860s or maybe 50s. Energy torpedo launchers are older, but possibly only by a few decades - they're on the Ad Astra dreadnought as of the 1878 refit, but may have been present all the way back to 1632.



I believe Energy Torps are several centuries old by the main series era. If memory serves they are used in the Manticore Ascendant books.
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Jonathan_S   » Sun Jan 17, 2016 7:46 pm

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Roguevictory wrote:
munroburton wrote:So grav lance technology was developed in the 1860s or maybe 50s. Energy torpedo launchers are older, but possibly only by a few decades - they're on the Ad Astra dreadnought as of the 1878 refit, but may have been present all the way back to 1632.



I believe Energy Torps are several centuries old by the main series era. If memory serves they are used in the Manticore Ascendant books.
I remember lasers, and primitive missiles, but not e-torps. But it's possible I'm just forgetting them, especially if they were mentioned in passing in the first novel...
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Roguevictory   » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:57 pm

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Jonathan_S wrote:
Roguevictory wrote:
I believe Energy Torps are several centuries old by the main series era. If memory serves they are used in the Manticore Ascendant books.
I remember lasers, and primitive missiles, but not e-torps. But it's possible I'm just forgetting them, especially if they were mentioned in passing in the first novel...


I don't actually own either novel yet I just checked them out from the library but I just checked and e-torps are definitely used in the Manticore Ascendant short story in Beginnings. The specs for the Casey class list four e-torp launchers and their namesake ship uses them in the story.
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by Somtaaw   » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:58 am

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After the Casey used a missile as a make-shift sidewall to keep from being blown up, is when they used the e-torps I believe.

Then the other ships that had been closing to assist turned tail and ran from the 'unkillable' Manty cruiser.


If memory serves anyways, I only read it once and I'm getting old so some of the details wrong
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Re: Horrible thought - I can't believe I'm going to mention
Post by saber964   » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:44 pm

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Somtaaw wrote:After the Casey used a missile as a make-shift sidewall to keep from being blown up, is when they used the e-torps I believe.

Then the other ships that had been closing to assist turned tail and ran from the 'unkillable' Manty cruiser.


If memory serves anyways, I only read it once and I'm getting old so some of the details wrong



The HMS Casey used them to blast one of the Volsung Mercenary BC's (Thor?) into dust bunnies.
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