Question about Beowulf tactics

crewdude48 wrote:Just be careful; IIRC the MoH on that CD was the E-ARC, not the final version. Also, all the other books are the first printing, with no edits that made it into later editions.

If that is so,... is there a place to get a newer and updated version of those books?

What about the later books in the series? Is there a standard amount of time before it becomes available in a ".doc" format?

crewdude48 wrote:

StealthSeeker wrote:I was able to go to the BaenCD “Fifth Imperium” site and down load BaenCD #22 which is titled “Missioin of Honor CD”. That CD contained all the Honorverse books up to “Mission of Honor” in various formats.

Just be careful; IIRC the MoH on that CD was the E-ARC, not the final version. Also, all the other books are the first printing, with no edits that made it into later editions.

P.S. No reason to feel bad about it at all. That CD is available with the permission of both Baen Books and Mr. Weber, who are perfectly happy to get those books out there.

Actually some of the material on the CDs (those ebooks that are not E-ARCs) has been updated.

See my post in this thread for an example (it's the first one on the page):

Re: possible new destroyer design

StealthSeeker wrote:

crewdude48 wrote:Just be careful; IIRC the MoH on that CD was the E-ARC, not the final version. Also, all the other books are the first printing, with no edits that made it into later editions.

If that is so,... is there a place to get a newer and updated version of those books?

What about the later books in the series? Is there a standard amount of time before it becomes available in a ".doc" format?

They're no longer being released for free as CD inserts in new hardcovers. However the books (including in the .rtf format which superseded the .doc format of the older books) are available for sale from Baen's http://www.baenebook.com site.

They usually go up for sale there a couple weeks before the hardcovers hit bookstore; and when you purchase a copy it includes access to DRM free versions in all the supported formats (rocketbook, mobi, epub, lit, lrf, and html).

Due to their agreement with Amazon, the books now start off at $9.99, then around when the paperback version is released the price drops to $6.99. (You can also buy the books through Amazon, but then you only get the kindle format -- so I still buy direct from Baen)

StealthSeeker wrote:

crewdude48 wrote:Just be careful; IIRC the MoH on that CD was the E-ARC, not the final version. Also, all the other books are the first printing, with no edits that made it into later editions.

If that is so,... is there a place to get a newer and updated version of those books?

What about the later books in the series? Is there a standard amount of time before it becomes available in a ".doc" format?

You can go to baenebooks.com and buy them. All of them are available for sale there in a variety of formats, including rtf, epub, and mobi, all without any DRM.

fallsfromtrees wrote:

StealthSeeker wrote:If that is so,... is there a place to get a newer and updated version of those books?

What about the later books in the series? Is there a standard amount of time before it becomes available in a ".doc" format?

You can go to baenebooks.com and buy them. All of them are available for sale there in a variety of formats, including rtf, epub, and mobi, all without any DRM.

And if you buy an ebook from Baen eBooks, you get all the file formats, usable on all the current e-readers and personal computers, not just one file format.

Vince wrote:And if you buy an ebook from Baen eBooks, you get all the file formats, usable on all the current e-readers and personal computers, not just one file format.

Even more--if you buy it from Baen eBooks, you can go back later and reload it, in the same format or in a different format, to as many devices as you want.

Vince wrote:And if you buy an ebook from Baen eBooks, you get all the file formats, usable on all the current e-readers and personal computers, not just one file format.

But if everything you've got that you'd even think about reading books on is either an actual Kindle or something with a Kindle app (which is the case for me), it's slightly less hassle to get books from Amazon, and some features work better.

drothgery wrote:

Vince wrote:And if you buy an ebook from Baen eBooks, you get all the file formats, usable on all the current e-readers and personal computers, not just one file format.

But if everything you've got that you'd even think about reading books on is either an actual Kindle or something with a Kindle app (which is the case for me), it's slightly less hassle to get books from Amazon, and some features work better.

It's not a hassle at all.

My main 3 reasons for buying the books directly from Baen eBooks are:

1) It helps Baen Books and the authors of the titles that I buy there, without Amazon taking some of the money as a middleman (Amazon gets enough of my money on other stuff anyway).

2) Baen has titles it gives away for free The Baen Free Library. Any titles that I get for free directly from Baen is much less costly for Baen (Amazon charges whoever puts a title in the Kindle store a delivery fee--at least for delivery by cellular networks) and helps support the existence of the Free Library.

3) The rich text format (rtf) files are easily searched for refreshing my memory on points, and for copy and pasting quotes, on the forums.

Also, if I get an e-reader that supports epub, I don't have to re-purchase the titles I have from Baen eBooks.

Beowulf tactics wise, just thought of something somewhat nasty, (maybe), pre-Mycroft delivery. Given that "we" haven't been given any sort of idea that the RMN is going to move SD(p)s in system [well, maybe one hidden one... an invited CLAC or Invictus (?) just to be ], and Honor is worried about a visible deterrent.

Loreleis. In cometh the mighty SLN armada to slap those rotten Beowulfan's into line. Freighters imitating SD(s) begin to maneuver, blah blah blah. The Beowulf SDF ships (tube plus towed pods (plus ammo ships dropping MORE pods) are obviously going to make like stealthy squirrels towards optimum tactical position(s) in space, and right at the opportune moment, up come a bunch of Lorelei(s), like 3 sides of a box of "RMN SD(p)s".

If I'm a Sollie admiral that can tie my own shoes at that point, and you give me one chance to hyper out of the box, I'll take it. Then the Beowulfans let all the in system newsies publish their "LMAO faked out the mighty SLN with zero (visible) help from the Manties" reports that not only is the Emporer not wearing any clothes, but the emporer's advisers are witless fools.

If they keep coming the towed/dropped off pods begin laying waste the SLN ships in whatever battle sequence makes sense, and inviting their friends in the RMN to come in and finish the job, if they're even needed at all.

SharkHunter wrote:If I'm a Sollie admiral that can tie my own shoes at that point, and you give me one chance to hyper out of the box, I'll take it. Then the Beowulfans let all the in system newsies publish their "LMAO faked out the mighty SLN with zero (visible) help from the Manties" reports that not only is the Emporer not wearing any clothes, but the emporer's advisers are witless fools.

If they keep coming the towed/dropped off pods begin laying waste the SLN ships in whatever battle sequence makes sense, and inviting their friends in the RMN to come in and finish the job, if they're even needed at all.

My take on things is that at this point the RMN is at war with the SLN and want/need to take every advantage to reduce the offensive or defensive capabilities of the SLN. So if the SLN does attack Beowulf, the last thing the RMN wants is for all those ships to get away so they can be used again. I think the same could be said of Beowulf as if the SLN does attack in an effort to prevent the vote, I can't see any way that Beowulf would not then consider themselves at war with the SLN. Therefore, strategically, just as at Manticore, weather I'm the RMN or Beowulf, I don't want to allow the attacking ships a chance to run away. At this point just embarrassing the SLN is not good enough.