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Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:20 pm

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::a Naughty Moose speculates::
Perhaps you might have put this into the
"Honorverse Humor" thread? ;)

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cthia wrote:Could Honor have somehow been promoted while she served in the Elysian Space Navy?

Just humor me here. If Honor & Co. had remained on Hades for quite some time more, they could have set up their own command structure. Honor could have made Fleet Admiral before leaving Hades.

That would have made her a hell of a Fleet Admiral. :roll: :lol:

Grayson would have accepted it. :cry:

She's a hell of a Fleet Admiral now.
She just could have made it sooner.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:24 pm

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I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Yow   » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:13 pm

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cthia wrote:I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

I'm sure there's a lot of Manties and Peeps who are glad they missed out on that as well if the Battle of Manticore is any meter stick. :mrgreen:

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:35 am

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Yow wrote:
cthia wrote:
I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

I'm sure there's a lot of Manties and Peeps who are glad they missed out on that as well if the Battle of Manticore is any meter stick. :mrgreen:

There is that! :D

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On another front, I always had a concern. There are instances where Honor and crew receives mail. The mail arrives in the form of courier ships, IIRC. What interests me is how the mail manages to find a ship. Of course, Admiralty House knows where a ship should be, but a Captain (for example Terekhov), may decide to drastically alter plans. So how does mail find a ship in those cases? Crew mail from home perhaps isn't as important, yet classified, urgent info from Admiralty House to a Captain is. Leaving one's travel itinerary with system governers seems a bit of a security risk.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Spacekiwi   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:20 am

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Shotgun approach. Every mil courier ship or diplo ship carries encrypted info of the mail of all ships expected to be in the area. each ship contacted gets full download, but only approriate ship can decode its mail. all others stored for a case of meeting any other ships that need their mail....


cthia wrote:There is that! :D

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On another front, I always had a concern. There are instances where Honor and crew receives mail. The mail arrives in the form of courier ships, IIRC. What interests me is how the mail manages to find a ship. Of course, Admiralty House knows where a ship should be, but a Captain (for example Terekhov), may decide to drastically alter plans. So how does mail find a ship in those cases? Crew mail from home perhaps isn't as important, yet classified, urgent info from Admiralty House to a Captain is. Leaving one's travel itinerary with system governers seems a bit of a security risk.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Yow   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:27 am

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cthia wrote:I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

Yow wrote:I'm sure there's a lot of Manties and Peeps who are glad they missed out on that as well if the Battle of Manticore is any meter stick. :mrgreen:

cthia wrote:There is that! :D

****** *

On another front, I always had a concern. There are instances where Honor and crew receives mail. The mail arrives in the form of courier ships, IIRC. What interests me is how the mail manages to find a ship. Of course, Admiralty House knows where a ship should be, but a Captain (for example Terekhov), may decide to drastically alter plans. So how does mail find a ship in those cases? Crew mail from home perhaps isn't as important, yet classified, urgent info from Admiralty House to a Captain is. Leaving one's travel itinerary with system governers seems a bit of a security risk.

I imagine as ships are deployed, "planners" determine who would be most likely to intercept if not outright tasked to find and intercept where other commands would be and carry incrypted messages that only intended recipients can decipher so to insure privacy and national security. I think IEH had an example of the peeps delivering messages by nearest ships available and such.

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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by Weird Harold   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:04 am

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cthia wrote:On another front, I always had a concern. There are instances where Honor and crew receives mail. The mail arrives in the form of courier ships, IIRC. What interests me is how the mail manages to find a ship. Of course, Admiralty House knows where a ship should be, but a Captain (for example Terekhov), may decide to drastically alter plans. So how does mail find a ship in those cases?


The US has had APO and FPO (Army Post Office and Fleet Post Office) addresses for years, and military forces throughout history have dealt with getting mail to and from troops in the field. With snail mail letters, sending encrypted copies to every possible location isn't feasible, but mail still -- eventually -- gets to the deployed soldier or sailor.

During WWII, the US forces used "V-Mail" a system of microfilmed letters with one roll of film for each APO/FPO address. The individual letters were printed at the APO/FPO and distributed to the units served.

(APO/FPO addresses are now tied into the Zip Code system, and military mail is handled the same as civilian mail)

It was the job of each APO/FPO to keep track of the units they service. For ships, it was often just keeping track of what their next port of call was supposed to be or when other supplies were sent to a ship, or what ship was slated to join the formation.

In the Honorverse, I would guess that mail would be routed through the flagship of a fleet or formation and sorted out to squadron flags and thence to individual ships. The next higher formation should know the general location/route of each ship under it's command, and would hold mail until a ship or formation (*cough* Tenth Fleet *cough*) deigns to report in from whatever wild goose chase or conquistador fit they've been engaged in.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by SWM   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:35 am

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cthia wrote:I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

David set that up really well. Given the blatantly obvious comparison of Haven to the French Revolution, Esther McQueen was clearly Napoleon. Everyone was all set to watch McQueen march across the stars and eventually meet her Waterloo against Honor. And RFC suddenly kills her off! Off-stage, no less! (At least until the short story came out a year later.) It was a cruel and wicked jest that David pulled on us. He fooled almost all of us, I suspect. That was fun.
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:39 am

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SWM wrote:
cthia wrote:
I can't shake the feeling that Honorverse fans missed the Superbowl of Superdreadnaught confrontations of the Salamander against Esther McQueen. I would have plunked down a sizeable credit to see that one!

David set that up really well. Given the blatantly obvious comparison of Haven to the French Revolution, Esther McQueen was clearly Napoleon. Everyone was all set to watch McQueen march across the stars and eventually meet her Waterloo against Honor. And RFC suddenly kills her off! Off-stage, no less! (At least until the short story came out a year later.) It was a cruel and wicked jest that David pulled on us. He fooled almost all of us, I suspect. That was fun.

I agree wholeheartedhog SWM. That was a wicked curve ball that the umpire says caught the outside corner of the plate. But it was foul all the way! :lol:

At any rate, McQueen spanked Hamish's wholeass! Perhaps Honor could've gotten even for McQueen taking advantage of her boo. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse ramblings and musings
Post by cthia   » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:23 pm

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Ashes of Victory
Senior Chief Harkness here sort of saw to it that everyone who had anything to do with what happened to me, including Cordelia Ransom, came to a very bad end," she told the Protector.

"He did?" Mayhew regarded Harkness approvingly. "Good for you, Senior Chief! How bad an end was it?"

Harkness flushed and started to mumble something, then slid to a halt and stared imploringly at Honor. She gazed back with a demure smile, right cheek dimpling, as she let him stew for a moment, then took mercy on him.

"About as bad as they come, actually," she said. Mayhew looked back at her, and she shrugged. "He arranged for a pinnace to bring up its impeller wedge inside a battlecruiser's boat bay," she told him much more soberly.

"Sweet Tester!" Matthews murmured, and her smile went crooked and cold. "If there were any pieces left at all, they were very, very small ones, Benjamin," she said softly, and his nostrils flared as he inhaled in intense satisfaction.

"Good for you, Senior Chief," he repeated, and Honor felt a tingle of relief as he stepped back from the precipice of his rage. He could do that, now that he knew those actually responsible for what had happened to her were safely dead. It wouldn't make him one bit less implacable where those people's superiors were concerned, but his need to strike out at someone—anyone—had been muted into something he could control.

He gazed at Harkness for a few more moments, then gave himself a little shake and turned back to Honor.

I can't help but contemplate how things would have went down had Honor sent someone ahead, in one of the first ships, to spill the beans. Grayson would have lost it. Hell, they'd have had to shackle Benjy to keep him from riding shotgun.

I wonder what Beth would have done?

Talk about alternate endings.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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