Brigade XO wrote:
These probably were two of the ballistic packages comming in.
IIRC, it actually said they were torpedoes. Which is totally absurd. They have these sensors and propulsion systems...
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kzt
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IIRC, it actually said they were torpedoes. Which is totally absurd. They have these sensors and propulsion systems... |
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cthia
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Actually I think think this is a brilliant hypothesis. It appears I need to pull a Steve Harvey and take the crown away from tlb. Albeit, I couldn't understand why your system needs to launch Deck 3's pods simply to clear the queue. However, it could be that some of the pods, even if only one of them, are filled and need to be launched just in case. At any rate, your configuration and explanation holds water in my book. Anyone disagree? If not, tlb, I'll need that crown back. Like Steve Harvey, it hurts me more than it hurts you. LOL I wonder, if this happens in an uninhabited system and the occupied pods still have fuel, and empty pods are in reach, can they be caught and boarded without compromising life support? Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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tlb
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That is not what MaxxQ said in the quote that you pointed out:
Anyway, I already pawned the crown. If we follow MaxxQ, then the empty pods are released when the ship breaks up. |
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Loren Pechtel
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Yup. This also reduces the number of holes in the armor for the pods. |
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cthia
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Attempting to pawn such a coveted crown. ::headshake:: 'hrrmph' Pawn shops won't take an object they think is stolen or obtained by nefarious means, or that they think don't belong to you. A crown with an inscription bearing a date barely a month old would raise suspicions. Plus, I understand all Oscars, awards and plaques carry a serial number. Shame on you. ![]() I don't have a problem with pods being ejected when the ship blows, like some sort of debris. But the problem I have with that is two-fold. 1. Those pods would be blown out of the ship, thus tumbling about. Instead of being launched on any particular trajectories. 2. They shouldn't be found anywhere near an actual launched pod, and in such large numbers, as was the case with Paulette and John's rescue efforts.
It is hard to think reinforced steel shafts of a certain thickness are such kinks in the armor. At any rate, explosions carried inside a shaft from bomb-pumped lasers has to have the effect of a very high-powered microwave oven. Are we certain some pods were empty, or simply appeared to be empty. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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ZVar
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I would say empty. While not specifically stated, the fact that the pod the Admiral was in appeared empty, and they still checked it would indicate they checked all "empty" pods. Mostly because it's hard to tell it was empty and simply not someone unconscious or dead. From the text.
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cthia
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Sorry Zvar, but I was being a bit of an asshole, or facetious. S'times the two are indistinguishable. No comment from the peanut gallery, thank you!
What I meant is this. If bomb-pumped lasers of any concentration travel down a reinforced steel shaft, it is going to be highly concentrated and nuke the occupants inside a pod. The result may be indistinguishable goo that the S&R teams just don't recognize. You ever played around with a microwave and live creatures? I haven't either, but I've heard things. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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tlb
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An X-ray laser beam does not work the same as a microwave oven. The actual result would not be good for the occupants of a pod, but that is mainly because it will blast the pod apart (and its contents); not because it will super-heat water molecules. |
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Vince
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In the next section, it specifically mentions that Bernike encountered graser torpedoes under spider drive, not the missiles coning in ballisticaly. Italics are the author's, boldface is my emphasis. -------------------------------------------------------------
History does not repeat itself so much as it echoes. |
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ThinksMarkedly
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Then we'll be glad the Honorverse uses grasers, not masers. A cavity of suitable enough material can provide amplification effects for a wave. This happens with radio waves ("wave guides" for example) and in your microwave. In fact, that's why lasers exist in the first place, among other things. Grasers could do that too, but given their extremely short wavelengths, such a cavity would need to be extremely small. Our science today can't make xrasers and grasers. There's also no material known to be reflective to gamma rays. In the extremely unlikely event that a graser hair-thin beam went through the launch tube without hitting the walls, it would also just hit whatever is at the end of the tube, causing that to vapourise and push plasma towards the occupants on the other side. People would be cooked by the tremendous amount of energy released, vapourised even, but not as an indirect effect. But that requires a perfect shot. |
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