Retirement Age in the Honorverse

Three consecutive life sentences running back to back suddenly make sense.

Life = ~ 100 pre-prolong years.

cthia wrote:Three consecutive life sentences running back to back suddenly make sense.

Life = ~ 100 pre-prolong years.

That could provide some interesting problems for prisons...and prisoners. There might well be a suicide option. It's one thing to spend 50 years in prison, but 200 years?

ldwechsler wrote:

cthia wrote:Three consecutive life sentences running back to back suddenly make sense.

Life = ~ 100 pre-prolong years.

That could provide some interesting problems for prisons...and prisoners. There might well be a suicide option. It's one thing to spend 50 years in prison, but 200 years?

I certainly agree. The suicide rate is probably thru the roof, pardon the pun. Part and parcel for the totally inhumane sentiment.

But yes, the interesting problem for prisons is its absolutely imminent that some prisoner will eventually dig himself a tunnel to freedom in 200+ years. One spoonful at a time. That's way too much time to orchestrate an escape.

Teachers must have a hard time having to constantly return to school to remain board certified for the new math. The newer math. The newest math . . .

cthia wrote:

ldwechsler wrote:quote="cthia"]Three consecutive life sentences running back to back suddenly make sense.

Life = ~ 100 pre-prolong years.

That could provide some interesting problems for prisons...and prisoners. There might well be a suicide option. It's one thing to spend 50 years in prison, but 200 years?

I certainly agree. The suicide rate is probably thru the roof, pardon the pun. Part and parcel for the totally inhumane sentiment.

But yes, the interesting problem for prisons is its absolutely imminent that some prisoner will eventually dig himself a tunnel to freedom in 200+ years. One spoonful at a time. That's way too much time to orchestrate an escape.[/quote]


Well how do you tunnel out of Alcatraz Maximum Security Orbital Penitentiary in the Gorgon Asteroid Belt. Or if you manage to tunnel out of a ground side prison. What if they put said prison in the middle of Hexapuma Country on Sphinx with the nearest freehold or settlement several days walk away.

cthia wrote:


Slaves usually were not given prolong and the genetics were usually not cleaned up - most died extremely early of genetic illnesses - if they survived that long.

Now I remember that detail, after your post Theemile. Thanks for the reminder.

It makes me go hmm though. I can see a filthy rich perverted Solarian coming across a drop dead gorgeous sex slave or ordering a drop dead gorgeous sex slave whose machinery is kink free, who he can give prolong to and keep her looking like he's robbing the cradle for years.

Wouldn't you want to keep your Bo Derek or your Anna Kournikova or your Emily Ratajkowski looking like she's still too young to be on the cover of Teen Magazine for decades if you were a pervert?

No, I'm personally NOT a pervert - I'm a prevert.

Prevert - perverted before perversion was perverted.[/quote]


You've been watching DOCTOR STRANGELOVE again, prevert.

Seriously, there was probably little point in giving prolong to sex slaves. They undoubtedly have a high suicide rate. Also, the principle of planned obsolescence should apply.

They cost you a lot of money. Their trade-in value is much higher.

saber964 wrote:Well how do you tunnel out of Alcatraz Maximum Security Orbital Penitentiary in the Gorgon Asteroid Belt.

Obviously you tunnel down to the black hole/wormhole at the center of the Asteroid and jump to a different dimension to bedevil Bahzell and friends.

saber964 wrote:

cthia wrote:If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane.

Any crime serious enough to get a life plus forever or life without parole sentence is probably serious enough to get the death penalty and in the Honorverse it seems like there no pussyfooting around with endless appeals. It your sentenced to death and within a few days or at most a few months you are facing execution. In the RMN you get caught slaving or piracy it's out the airlock within hours of conviction.

There are probably more legal systems than there are world's.

Weird Harold wrote:

saber964 wrote:Well how do you tunnel out of Alcatraz Maximum Security Orbital Penitentiary in the Gorgon Asteroid Belt.

Obviously you tunnel down to the black hole/wormhole at the center of the Asteroid and jump to a different dimension to bedevil Bahzell and friends.

I was under the impression that all prisons weren't orbital Alcatrazes. I think that came up during the introduction of Hades. I question whether poor systems in the Verge and Silesia can afford the logistics of such luxuries as an orbital prison.