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Re: Command Slots
Post by Dafmeister   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:25 pm

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Draken wrote:What I was thinking about Jaruwalski, was that she should get a Rear Admiral promotion and be one of Honor squadrons commanders. Also Scotty Tremaine should get his promotion relatively soon, so why don't give him new CLAC division. He would be best choice for that position, he was COLAC for something like 10 years?


Which is exactly he was moved to a cruiser division, He needed breadth of experience. Firstly, he needed to command a smaller ship before they'd give him something the size of a CLAC, let alone a division, and secondly he needed to move away from the LAC side of the Navy and get some time in 'conventional' warships.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by SWM   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:00 pm

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Draken wrote:What I was thinking about Jaruwalski, was that she should get a Rear Admiral promotion and be one of Honor squadrons commanders. Also Scotty Tremaine should get his promotion relatively soon, so why don't give him new CLAC division. He would be best choice for that position, he was COLAC for something like 10 years?

Can't happen unless she takes the Crusher. It's a solid requirement for higher-level ship command.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by Roguevictory   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:39 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:
Roguevictory wrote:I have always wanted to see a short story that follows a character through the Crusher. Jaruwalski might make an interesting star for such a story.


Jaruwalski's an interesting case. Can an officer really go through the Crusher when she's already helped to run the Crusher?



I seriously doubt that Honor would have put her on the Crusher staff if doing so would kill her chances of getting to take it, and thus kill her chances of commanding anything heavier then a destroyer.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by SWM   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:50 pm

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Roguevictory wrote:
Dafmeister wrote:Jaruwalski's an interesting case. Can an officer really go through the Crusher when she's already helped to run the Crusher?

I seriously doubt that Honor would have put her on the Crusher staff if doing so would kill her chances of getting to take it, and thus kill her chances of commanding anything heavier then a destroyer.

Unless she really is never going to command anything heavier than a destroyer. Not everyone with high rank does, you know.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by Valen123456   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:09 pm

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If we are talking about future stories about mixing up Haven and Manty officers, I would like to see a situation were we have a really bad nationality issue arising.

For all the good will and amazingly fast friendships growing at the senior command levels (one of the reasons the GA is growing so well) there is still a lot of bad memories between the two nations after so many bloody years of war. A really interesting story I feel would be to have two officers from either sides (two ship captains in a joint squadron for instance) who come into conflict as a result of one being a Havenite and the other a Manty. For example one could have either lost people or suffered personally at the hands of the other side while the other officer is still too bigoted or suspicious to trust their new allies. Watching them change their outlooks and see them actually overcoming their troubles, or causing serious problems due to their conflict would make for a very interesting story.

Life tends to be extremely messy, and while we are all enjoying the heroes of Manticore and Haven working together I think another viewpoint/perspective would be good, even if its not a pleasant one. This would probably work better as a short story rather than a main story plot line. What do people think?
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Re: Command Slots
Post by roseandheather   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:28 pm

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Valen123456 wrote:If we are talking about future stories about mixing up Haven and Manty officers, I would like to see a situation were we have a really bad nationality issue arising.

For all the good will and amazingly fast friendships growing at the senior command levels (one of the reasons the GA is growing so well) there is still a lot of bad memories between the two nations after so many bloody years of war. A really interesting story I feel would be to have two officers from either sides (two ship captains in a joint squadron for instance) who come into conflict as a result of one being a Havenite and the other a Manty. For example one could have either lost people or suffered personally at the hands of the other side while the other officer is still too bigoted or suspicious to trust their new allies. Watching them change their outlooks and see them actually overcoming their troubles, or causing serious problems due to their conflict would make for a very interesting story.

Life tends to be extremely messy, and while we are all enjoying the heroes of Manticore and Haven working together I think another viewpoint/perspective would be good, even if its not a pleasant one. This would probably work better as a short story rather than a main story plot line. What do people think?


Wait for iiiiiiiiiit....

ALLEN HIGGINS AND MOLLY DeLANEY.

Tourville noted pretty specifically that while DeLaney doesn't hate the Manties, she doesn't like them either, and views them mostly as a means to an end.

And as for my darling - I mean, Allen Higgins, well... Grendelsbane. That is all.

...I'll go now.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by Armed Neo-Bob   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:30 pm

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Dafmeister wrote:
Draken wrote:What I was thinking about Jaruwalski, was that she should get a Rear Admiral promotion and be one of Honor squadrons commanders. Also Scotty Tremaine should get his promotion relatively soon, so why don't give him new CLAC division. He would be best choice for that position, he was COLAC for something like 10 years?


Which is exactly he was moved to a cruiser division, He needed breadth of experience. Firstly, he needed to command a smaller ship before they'd give him something the size of a CLAC, let alone a division, and secondly he needed to move away from the LAC side of the Navy and get some time in 'conventional' warships.


When Scotty will be promoted again is a good question. He made senior grade Captain only after the Battle of Manticore, which isn't all that long ago now--a bit over a year?

RFC had Henke say pretty much the same as Dafmeister in SftS. You get a well rounded officer from someone with a variety of different experiences, not keeping someone in the same narrow slots.

He'll keep the CruDiv until they can promote him to Commodore; but he needed command time with more conventional ships before any Promotion Board will go for it. Something about no officer being really tested until they had had a cruiser command. . . to refer to HoS.

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Re: Command Slots
Post by Draken   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:35 pm

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Armed Neo-Bob wrote:
Dafmeister wrote:What I was thinking about Jaruwalski, was that she should get a Rear Admiral promotion and be one of Honor squadrons commanders. Also Scotty Tremaine should get his promotion relatively soon, so why don't give him new CLAC division. He would be best choice for that position, he was COLAC for something like 10 years?

Which is exactly he was moved to a cruiser division, He needed breadth of experience. Firstly, he needed to command a smaller ship before they'd give him something the size of a CLAC, let alone a division, and secondly he needed to move away from the LAC side of the Navy and get some time in 'conventional' warships.


When Scotty will be promoted again is a good question. He made senior grade Captain only after the Battle of Manticore, which isn't all that long ago now--a bit over a year?

RFC had Henke say pretty much the same as Dafmeister in SftS. You get a well rounded officer from someone with a variety of different experiences, not keeping someone in the same narrow slots.

He'll keep the CruDiv until they can promote him to Commodore; but he needed command time with more conventional ships before any Promotion Board will go for it. Something about no officer being really tested until they had had a cruiser command. . . to refer to HoS.

Rob

Certain admiral could want him in her fleet as CLAC commander, so Promotion Board will be pushing that as hard as possible.
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Re: Command Slots
Post by Armed Neo-Bob   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:40 pm

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roseandheather wrote:
Valen123456 wrote:If we are talking about future stories about mixing up Haven and Manty officers, I would like to see a situation were we have a really bad nationality issue arising.

For all the good will and amazingly fast friendships growing at the senior command levels (one of the reasons the GA is growing so well) there is still a lot of bad memories between the two nations after so many bloody years of war. A really interesting story I feel would be to have two officers from either sides (two ship captains in a joint squadron for instance) who come into conflict as a result of one being a Havenite and the other a Manty. For example one could have either lost people or suffered personally at the hands of the other side while the other officer is still too bigoted or suspicious to trust their new allies. Watching them change their outlooks and see them actually overcoming their troubles, or causing serious problems due to their conflict would make for a very interesting story.

Life tends to be extremely messy, and while we are all enjoying the heroes of Manticore and Haven working together I think another viewpoint/perspective would be good, even if its not a pleasant one. This would probably work better as a short story rather than a main story plot line. What do people think?


Wait for iiiiiiiiiit....

ALLEN HIGGINS AND MOLLY DeLANEY.

Tourville noted pretty specifically that while DeLaney doesn't hate the Manties, she doesn't like them either, and views them mostly as a means to an end.

And as for my darling - I mean, Allen Higgins, well... Grendelsbane. That is all.

...I'll go now.



Valen123456, quirky and messy with lots of room for incidents. Probably why Harrington is finding her job as CO of Grand Fleet an exercise in herding treecats. Or even terran cats. What happens when that Marine that used to be StateSec (Fanatic) meets someone like Harkness? Bar fights everywhere. . .

Roseandheather, while I think Molly would be a good start to a pair up, I think Allen Higgins is still the Fleet Admiral of Home Fleet. Once there, like Webster and D'Orville, he is stuck watching others get the fun commands. Also, Molly might be a bit hard on his blood pressure. Go a bit easy on poor Allen.

We don't have too much info on Higgins, anyway. Is he married?.
Rob
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Re: Command Slots
Post by roseandheather   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:46 pm

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Armed Neo-Bob wrote:
Valen123456, quirky and messy with lots of room for incidents. Probably why Harrington is finding her job as CO of Grand Fleet an exercise in herding treecats. Or even terran cats. What happens when that Marine that used to be StateSec (Fanatic) meets someone like Harkness? Bar fights everywhere. . .

Roseandheather, while I think Molly would be a good start to a pair up, I think Allen Higgins is still the Fleet Admiral of Home Fleet. Once there, like Webster and D'Orville, he is stuck watching others get the fun commands. Also, Molly might be a bit hard on his blood pressure. Go a bit easy on poor Allen.

We don't have too much info on Higgins, anyway. Is he married?.
Rob


As far as we know he's still Admiral of the Fleet, yes, but he's been there for awhile - they might rotate him out soon.

And yes, he is married - to me. :mrgreen:

In all seriousness, he was married to a relative of Janacek's in War of Honor (which was how he got command at Grendelsbane, despite him apparently not being a twit of any sort), but that was quite awhile ago, and we don't have any textev from MoH, I don't think - she might not have survived the Yawata Strike. (Or First Manticore, if she's also Navy).
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